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Difference between large-scale optimization and equation-based simulation
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Problem
Large scale optimization (for example using AMPL) can be used to solve equilibrium systems which have components with fixed mathematical relationships. What is the difference between this and using an equation-based simulation system (like Modelica) to solve an equation-based system?
Of course, most simulations have a time variable, but you can just as well have a time variable in AMPL. Are AMPL models therefore fully analogous to equation-based simulation like MapleSim/Modelica, or is there some fundamental difference between the technologies?
Of course, most simulations have a time variable, but you can just as well have a time variable in AMPL. Are AMPL models therefore fully analogous to equation-based simulation like MapleSim/Modelica, or is there some fundamental difference between the technologies?
Solution
AMPL and Modelica are modelling languages, not a solver or optimization algorithm. So, you don't use AMPL or Modelica to solve some optimization problem: you express the problem in AMPL or Modelica, then you use some other solver to find the optimal solution.
AMPL tends to be used for problems that can be solved with optimization methods: e.g., linear programming, integer linear programming, quadratic programming, convex optimization, that sort of thing. Modelica seems to be used for problems that can be solved by solving differential equations or by using hybrid model-checking.
Modelica is for modelling how some continuous variables change over time. Contrary to what you wrote, there's no simple way to model in that in AMPL by "adding a time variable". To put it another way: Modelica lets us model, say, the position of a component as a function of time. This is a function $f(t)$. AMPL lets us model, say, the position, as a fixed continuous value. This is a value $x$. Adding a second variable $t$ still doesn't give you any way to model a function of $t$.
So, the two approaches are for modelling different kinds of problems; and typically they're used with different kinds of back-end solvers, which use different techniques. They're not interchangeable.
Disclaimer: This is all based on my (rather limited) understanding of these systems.
AMPL tends to be used for problems that can be solved with optimization methods: e.g., linear programming, integer linear programming, quadratic programming, convex optimization, that sort of thing. Modelica seems to be used for problems that can be solved by solving differential equations or by using hybrid model-checking.
Modelica is for modelling how some continuous variables change over time. Contrary to what you wrote, there's no simple way to model in that in AMPL by "adding a time variable". To put it another way: Modelica lets us model, say, the position of a component as a function of time. This is a function $f(t)$. AMPL lets us model, say, the position, as a fixed continuous value. This is a value $x$. Adding a second variable $t$ still doesn't give you any way to model a function of $t$.
So, the two approaches are for modelling different kinds of problems; and typically they're used with different kinds of back-end solvers, which use different techniques. They're not interchangeable.
Disclaimer: This is all based on my (rather limited) understanding of these systems.
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StackExchange Computer Science Q#67790, answer score: 2
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